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Sports Betting Legislation

Renee Shaw discusses sports betting legislation before the 2020 General Assembly with Rep. Adam Koenig (R-Erlanger), chair of the House Licensing, Occupations and Administrative Regulations Committee; Rep. Al Gentry (D-Louisville); Martin Cothran of the Family Foundation of Kentucky; and Richard Dawahare, a Lexington attorney.
Season 27 Episode 5 Length 56:36 Premiere: 02/03/20

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Renee Shaw is the Director of Public Affairs and Moderator at KET, currently serving as host of KET’s weeknight public affairs program Kentucky Edition, the signature public policy discussion series Kentucky Tonight, the weekly interview series Connections, Election coverage and KET Forums.

Since 2001, Renee has been the producing force behind KET’s legislative coverage that has been recognized by the Kentucky Associated Press and the National Educational Telecommunications Association. Under her leadership, KET has expanded its portfolio of public affairs content to include a daily news and information program, Kentucky Supreme Court coverage, townhall-style forums, and multi-platform program initiatives around issues such as opioid addiction and youth mental health.  

Renee has also earned top awards from the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences (NATAS), with three regional Emmy awards. In 2023, she was inducted into the Silver Circle of the NATAS, one of the industry’s highest honors recognizing television professionals with distinguished service in broadcast journalism for 25 years or more.  

Already an inductee into the Kentucky Civil Rights Hall of Fame (2017), Renee expands her hall of fame status with induction into Western Kentucky University’s Hall of Distinguished Alumni in November of 2023.  

In February of 2023, Renee graced the front cover of Kentucky Living magazine with a centerfold story on her 25 years of service at KET and even longer commitment to public media journalism. 

In addition to honors from various educational, civic, and community organizations, Renee has earned top honors from the Associated Press and has twice been recognized by Mental Health America for her years-long dedication to examining issues of mental health and opioid addiction.  

In 2022, she was honored with Women Leading Kentucky’s Governor Martha Layne Collins Leadership Award recognizing her trailblazing path and inspiring dedication to elevating important issues across Kentucky.   

In 2018, she co-produced and moderated a 6-part series on youth mental health that was awarded first place in educational content by NETA, the National Educational Telecommunications Association. 

She has been honored by the AKA Beta Gamma Omega Chapter with a Coretta Scott King Spirit of Ivy Award; earned the state media award from the Kentucky Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution in 2019; named a Charles W. Anderson Laureate by the Kentucky Personnel Cabinet in 2019 honoring her significant contributions in addressing socio-economic issues; and was recognized as a “Kentucky Trailblazer” by the University of Kentucky Martin School of Public Policy and Administration during the Wendell H. Ford Lecture Series in 2019. That same year, Shaw was named by The Kentucky Gazette’s inaugural recognition of the 50 most notable women in Kentucky politics and government.  

Renee was bestowed the 2021 Berea College Service Award and was named “Unapologetic Woman of the Year” in 2021 by the Community Action Council.   

In 2015, she received the Green Dot Award for her coverage of domestic violence, sexual assault & human trafficking. In 2014, Renee was awarded the Anthony Lewis Media Award from the KY Department of Public Advocacy for her work on criminal justice reform. Two Kentucky governors, Republican Ernie Fletcher and Democrat Andy Beshear, have commissioned Renee as a Kentucky Colonel for noteworthy accomplishments and service to community, state, and nation.  

A former adjunct media writing professor at Georgetown College, Renee traveled to Cambodia in 2003 to help train emerging journalists on reporting on critical health issues as part of an exchange program at Western Kentucky University. And, she has enterprised stories for national media outlets, the PBS NewsHour and Public News Service.  

Shaw is a 2007 graduate of Leadership Kentucky, a board member of CASA of Lexington, and a longtime member of the Frankfort/Lexington Chapter of The Links Incorporated, an international, not-for-profit organization of women of color committed to volunteer service. She has served on the boards of the Kentucky Historical Society, Lexington Minority Business Expo, and the Board of Governors for the Ohio Valley Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. 

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A Look at the Details of House Bill 137

Proponents of sports wagering in Kentucky must feel like they're living out the words of Major League Baseball catcher Yogi Berra, when he said, "it's deja vu all over again."

Last year a state House committee approved legislation to allow Kentuckians to legally bet on sporting events. Despite bipartisan support, that bill never made it to the House floor for a vote.

This year, a new sports wagering measure has already gained unanimous approval by the House Licensing, Occupations, and Administrative Regulations Committee, but the bill has languished for two weeks awaiting further action. That's caused some gaming advocates to fear the idea is doomed yet again.

Rep. Adam Koenig (R-Erlanger), chairman of that committee and sponsor of House Bill 137, says there's nothing to fear. He contends the measure already has enough votes to pass, and House leadership will call the bill "when it's ready."

“When everyone’s had the opportunity to discuss it with their constituents and we can maximize our votes so it improves its chances down in the Senate,” says Koenig.

What's in the Bill?

The legislation would allow Kentuckians over the age of 18 to bet on the outcomes of professional major league sporting events as well as collegiate games, including those played by state university teams. Bets would need to be placed in person at one of the state's horse racing tracks or at the Kentucky Motor Speedway. Registered bettors could also wager online through an app acquired from one those facilities and used while the bettor is within the borders of the state.

The venues that offer sports wagering would have to acquire a state license, which will initially cost $500,000 plus $50,000 for annual renewals. The Kentucky Horse Racing Commission would manage and regulate the wagering system.

In-person bets would be taxed at 10.25 percent, while online bets would see a 14.25 percent levy. The bulk of the revenues would be allocated to the state's ailing pension systems, while 5 percent would be reserved for gambling addiction prevention and treatment, and 0.5 percent for the Kentucky Thoroughbred Development Fund to boost race purses.

Koenig estimates sports wagering would generate at least $22.5 million annually for the commonwealth, not including licensing fees.

Legislation Allows Other 'Games of Skill'

In 2018, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act, which essentially prohibited state-sanctioned betting on sporting events. Koenig says that since that ruling, 19 states have moved to legalize sports wagers, including Indiana, Ohio, and Tennessee.

Even where it's not been legalized, Rep. Al Gentry (D-Louisville) says the activity is occurring through bookmakers and off-shore entities.

“We're not introducing gambling or sports betting... to our state, it's already here – it’s in every single community,” says Gentry. “I’ve always looked at it as a common sense approach: We already have it here, let's regulate it.”

But HB 137 goes beyond simple bets on college and pro sports. The measure also allows wagering on fantasy sports teams and online poker as well as "other events in conformance with federal law." Martin Cothran of the Family Foundation of Kentucky says that opens the door to other games of skill traditionally associated with casinos.

“There’s no net with holes begin enough to let sports wagering through, and small enough to stop other forms of casino gambling,” says Cothran. “It’s the same argument for both: You get all of it or none of it.”

Koenig says he's not trying to sneak casino gaming into his bill. Instead, he says he wants to give track operators the flexibility they need to respond to future changes in wagering technology and consumer interest. The legislator says his goal is to regulate the activity and boost state revenues in the process.

“If you want to help the black market, and you want to help the bookies, and you want to help the off-shore accounts, and you want to help our neighboring states, then by all means be against it,” says Koenig. “I want to protect people, I want to help our budget, I want to help teachers with our education funding through this.”

“This is about keeping the discretional spending of our Kentucky citizens within our borders, because right now it’s leaving our borders,” adds Gentry, who is a co-sponsor of HB 137.

Is It Constitutional?

Cothran and other opponents of the plan contend that any expansion of gaming or wagering in Kentucky can only occur via a constitutional amendment approved by voters. Previous attempts by lawmakers to bring casinos to the commonwealth pursued an amendment path.

“A constitutional amendment to expand gambling in this state was the assumption of numerous attorneys general opinions, it was the assumption behind 25 years of debating the issue in this state, and it's also the assumption behind the case law in this,” says Cothran. “So we can't just wish it goes away.”

A proposed amendment would need to be approved by 60 percent of both chambers of the legislature, and then approved by voters, which sets a much higher bar for gaming advocates to achieve.

Koenig says the experts he's consulted believe that sports wagering can be enacted through legislation and does not require a constitutional amendment.

“Not only is it not necessary, it’s not even close to necessary,” says Koenig.

The Republican says the framers of the state's 1891 constitution only sought to prohibit lotteries and games of chance, which is why voters had to approve amendments to allow the Kentucky Lottery and charitable gaming. (A 1931 court ruling determined pari-mutuel wagering to be legal since those betting on horses play against other bettors and not the "house.")

Cothran says if Kentucky's constitution already allows games of skill, as Koenig argues, then the state should have allowed casino operations long ago. He says the reason that hasn't happened is because gaming advocates know such facilities would be challenged as unconstitutional.

The Perils of More Gambling

Then there’s the question of whether more gambling – beyond betting on racehorses and playing the Kentucky Lottery – would be good for the commonwealth?

“There is no safe gambling,” says gambling opponent and Lexington attorney Richard Dawahare. “The state’s main job is to promote general welfare. Everything about gambling opposes that.”

Dawahare says for every dollar the state would receive in revenues, it would spend another $3 to cover the social costs that gambling creates. He acknowledges that Kentuckians already gamble, but that doesn't mean the state should endorse the activity.

“The problem is that if we institutionalize sports gambling, that’s putting a Good Housekeeping seal on it,” says Dawahare. “We will create a lot more gamblers and a lot more problem gamblers with the expanded availability.”

Gentry admits that gambling addiction is a serious problem, but he says the state currently does nothing to help those people.

“We appropriate no dollars for that problem right now,” says the Democrat. “Our bill fixes that. We appropriate moneys for the first time to go toward addiction gambling problems.”

As for generating new revenues for the state, Dawahare says there are “healthier ways” to do that. For example, he says the state could recoup billions a year by repealing unfair tax incentives. He also argues that trying to compete with other states for gaming revenues is a "race to the bottom."

“Yes other states are doing it,” says Dawahare, “but we don't have to get every dollar that's out there, especially if it’s going to hurt us, and be contrary to our values, and end up costing us, according to the experts, more than we take in.”

Another concern with the sports betting proposal is that it would be regulated by an agency, the horse racing commission, that currently does not have to abide by executive branch ethics regulations.

“This is an accident waiting to happen,” says Cothran. “We’re putting gambling, something that has been subject to corruption time and time again, under an agency of government that is not under ethics restrictions. There’s a problem with that.”

Koenig says he's not opposed to requiring the racing commission to comply with ethics laws. A House Floor Amendment filed by Rep. Jeff Hoover (R-Jamestown) would require members of the commission to comply with the executive branch code of ethics.

Prospects for Passage

While Koenig waits for HB 137 to be called up in the full House, he says he's working to secure as many votes as he can. He says he probably should've kept the bill in committee longer than he did, which would have given him more time to garner broader support for the measure. But he dismisses the notion that he and House Republican leaders are waiting to see how the bill would fare in the Senate before requiring House members to take a public vote on the bill.

“I don't think it will haunt anyone who’s willing to vote yes,” says Koenig. “This is a freedom bill and this is a allow-grown-adults-to-make-their-own-decisions bill.”

Gentry says he's eager to vote for HB 137 because he contends it's what many Kentuckians want.

“If we don't bring this bill to the floor and vote on it when we have majority support for the bill, then we are suppressing the voice of the commonwealth,” Gentry says.

Cothran says he has no doubt the legislation could pass the House, but he contends the prospects are less certain in the upper chamber.

“I don't detect a strong sentiment for this bill in the Senate,” says Cothran, “and I particularly don’t get it in the Republican caucus.”

With more than half of the 60-day session still to come, Koenig says there’s plenty of time for his bill to be passed.

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